Como ex-católico, no puede dejar de gustarme el borrón y cuenta nueva -- sensación de indulgencia plenaria. Lo que no entiendo bien es esto: si Citi está quebrado, el razonamiento anterior quiere decir, me parece, que lo que Old Citi le deberá al Estado y a otros acreedores (no depositantes) será mayor que los activos (tóxicos) del Old Citi. En otras palabras: Old Citi estará quebrado. Es decir, bancarrota y repartija de sus activos. No entiendo bien cómo queda parado en este caso el crédito estatal. Supongo que la lógica es que primero se paga la deuda del Estado, y lo que queda se reparte entre accionistas y viejos acreedores. Este párrafo no me lo aclara mucho:
The bad old bank would manage the remaining assets of the old bank in the interest of the shareholders of the old bank. Should the old bank fail, the appropriate insolvency protection regime and insolvency regime for the asset management fund that the old bank has now become will be involved. The unsecured creditors (including the holders of senior unsecured debt) would be ad risk. At the very least, some or all of their claims are likely to be converted into ordinary equity. As an old bad bank is no longer in the new lending business and engages in new funding only to maximise the returns from managing (down) the existing portfolio of assets, the old bad banks are of no greater systemic significance than any other asset managers.
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Lo que esta proponiendo es una solucion pareceida a la de suiza, donde los activos toxicos integran un fondo de inversiones que continuaria operativo. En el caso de USA intuyo que si falla va a la quiebra y si gana les sirve para repagar lo que el gob les esta prestando para componer el good bank
Rollo que hay de tu consejo de comprar Citibank a 14. Esta a 1,5.
Aca esta la respuesta de Rollo:
a mí me parecía una ganga a 14.25 (chequear), y llegó a 20. yo vendí a 18, hice un 25% en dos semanas. lección para la próxima: hay que conformarse con menos.
Yo creo que hay 2 lecciones:
1) si queres good advice, pagalo. Gratis on the web, no hay nada.
2) Si vas a pagar, contrata a alguien que te avise cuando el vende!!!
En inversiones no existe good advice, por una sencilla razón de arbitraje entre el fee & yield
Rollo, quiere decir que por iglesia no te vas a casar, ni tampoco vas a ser presidente?
Rollo no me digas que vos ivas a lo del padre grassi?
Rollo, no se hizo algo así, sin cambiarle el nombre, con el Bco Provincia? Y con el Banco de Santa Fe (o el de Entre Rios o el Bisel, ese que revolearon los franceses del Credit Agricole cuando se dieron cuenta que era Argentina y era 2002)
¿No será demasiada poca lógica "ex católico"?
Entiendo la separación, también el divorcio. Pero borrar el bautismo ¿cómo?
Es un mecanismo absurdo para un mismo final. Se propone ajustar activos a valor de mercado, eliminar accionistas (ya lo hizo el mercado solito con el precio de la accion) y ver quien se lleva el muerto del pasivo. O reestructuras el pasivo hasta equilibrar el activo y listo, o el Gobierno se lleva el tomuer y estatiza la deuda.
No tiene nada de novedoso, salvo una vuelta de tuerca para q el empome no se note. El Citi ya quebro, la pregunta es quien acompaña a los accionistas al velorio, los actuales pasivos o el estado, nada mas simple y facil. La decision es politica.
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